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Package 'hddtemp' has no installation candidate ...is is going away?

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Package 'hddtemp' has no installation candidate ...is is going away?

#1 Post by graemev2 »

Seems hddtemp is referenced, but does not exist?

On the assumption it's been replaced and somebody knows by what, could they show me their workings? (where I should have checked)

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graeme@real:~$ sudo apt-get update
Hit:1 http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian unstable InRelease
Hit:2 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
graeme@real:~$ sudo apt-get install hddtemp
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package hddtemp is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'hddtemp' has no installation candidate

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Re: Package 'hddtemp' has no installation candidate ...is is going away?

#2 Post by Aki »

Hello,

You can check package status using https://packages.debian.org, searching for the package and then following the link named "Developer information".

For the hddtemp package , from https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/hddtemp results:
From: Debian FTP Masters <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>
To: <1002484-close@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Bug#1002484: Removed package(s) from unstable
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:59:14 +0000

We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

hddtemp | 0.3-beta15-54 | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x

------------------- Reason -------------------
ROM; dead upstream, better alternatives
----------------------------------------------

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it). Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
master archive and will not propagate to any mirrors until the next
dinstall run at the earliest.

Packages are usually not removed from testing by hand. Testing tracks
unstable and will automatically remove packages which were removed
from unstable when removing them from testing causes no dependency
problems. The release team can force a removal from testing if it is
really needed, please contact them if this should be the case.

We try to close bugs which have been reported against this package
automatically. But please check all old bugs, if they were closed
correctly or should have been re-assigned to another package.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to 1002484@bugs.debian.org.

The full log for this bug can be viewed at https://bugs.debian.org/1002484

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The package has been removed from Debian since Debian Buster (Debian 10) because it was not maintained by original developers (so called "upstream").

EDIT: The package has been removed from current Debian Testing and it is currently available for the following debian releases: stretch (oldoldstable), buster (oldstable), bullseye (stable).
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Re: Package 'hddtemp' has no installation candidate ...is is going away?

#3 Post by graemev2 »

Thanks for the quick response, however:


https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages --> https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw ... ection=all

...err tab labelled "Developer information". ...not finding it. (there is "Developers' Corner" but I take it that's not want you mean.


I can see that:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/hddtemp

Does show the information, but can't see how I could navigate there?

What am I missing

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Re: Package 'hddtemp' has no installation candidate ...is is going away?

#4 Post by kent_dorfman766 »

so this thread should be moved to "unstable/testing" since hddtemp is present as hddtemp/stable.

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#5 Post by Aki »

Hello,
graemev2 wrote: 2023-03-24 19:02 "Developer information". ...not finding it.
At the address https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=hddtemp you will find this output:
hddptemp_suites.png
As you can see, the debian release (e.g. bullseye) is a link; if you click on it, you will be redirected to the package version for that Debian release:
hddtemp.png
On the right side of the page (see the red box) there's the label "Developer Information". If you click on it, you will be redirected to the detail of the package.

By the way, as kent_dorfman766 pointed out in his previous message, the package is available for Debian Bullseye (Debian 11 or Debian Stable), too (I missed that before).

What's you Debian version ? You can check with:

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cat /etc/debian_version
You are probably using Debian Testing because of the missing package.
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#6 Post by graemev2 »

Ahh, OK.

This machine is on (sid)bookworm ...just realised/remembered this site this is a "generic Debian" ... I was posting"as if" it were "Sid specific"
(which I know it's not ,as I'm also posting here about buster and bullseye.....

...but this was partly my issue with Navigation . I went to : https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=hddtemp
and looked there for tab labelled "Developer information" .... didn't think to go to e.g. bullseye, because that's not what I'm running.


Anyhow, got there now , thanks to all who helped.

As a parting comment. What is the relationship between "news" here and versions appearing in SID repo...e.g. I see:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pipewire , had a release [ 0.3.67-1 ] "accepted" on 2023-03-09 . I'm currently running 0.3.65-3.

My guess would be something like "The Debian package maintainer has accepted the new source and is in the process of building/testing a new Debian package" ? is that about right ?

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Re: Package 'hddtemp' has no installation candidate ...is is going away?

#7 Post by sunrat »

Moved to Testing/Unstable subforum
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#8 Post by Aki »

graemev2 wrote: 2023-03-24 22:18 As a parting comment. What is the relationship between "news" here and versions appearing in SID repo...e.g. I see:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pipewire , had a release [ 0.3.67-1 ] "accepted" on 2023-03-09 . I'm currently running 0.3.65-3.
My guess would be something like "The Debian package maintainer has accepted the new source and is in the process of building/testing a new Debian package" ? is that about right ?
The "news" list for pipewire package reports:
[2023-03-09] Accepted pipewire 0.3.67-1 (source) into experimental (Dylan Aïssi)
It means that the developer has uploaded a new version in "experimental" repository of Debian. More about experimental repository here: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental . When he/she will will consider this release ready, he/she will upload it (or another more recent versions of the package) into Debian Unstable. Therefore this new version will start its journey from unstable, to testing and, at last, to stable repository.
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#9 Post by Aki »

@graemev2:
if you are interested in, you can try to build the hddtemp package for the release you are using ( sid / bookworm ) from the source code in Debian Stable. You can follow the instruction at [1]. It is not a proper "backport" (you are not compiling a newer codebase for a previous release), but it works. For example, in my Debian Testing:

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$ sudo apt install packaging-dev debian-keyring devscripts equivs
$ dget -x http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hddtemp/hddtemp_0.3-beta15-54.dsc
$ cd hddtemp-0.3-beta15/
$ sudo mk-build-deps --install --remove
$ dch --bpo
$ dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
The following package should be created:

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$ ls ../hddtemp_*_*.deb -la
-rw-r--r-- 1 aki aki 49048 25 mar 20.04 ../hddtemp_0.3-beta15-54~bpo11+1_amd64.deb
You can install with this command:

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$ sudo apt install  ../hddtemp_*_*.deb
$ sudo apt purge hddtemp-build-deps
To verify if it is installed:

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$ apt --names-only search hddtemp 
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
hddtemp/now 0.3-beta15-54~bpo11+1 amd64 [installed,local]
  hard drive temperature monitoring utility
---
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation

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#10 Post by graemev2 »

I came across my own post while searching :-)

I was watching shutdown closely (because I'm getting a long delay) and I noticed, it was stopping the service hddtemp.service.

Indeed if I type:

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root@ts412:~# systemctl status hddtemp.service
● hddtemp.service - LSB: disk temperature monitoring daemon
     Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/hddtemp; generated)
     Active: active (exited) since Mon 2023-12-04 16:07:21 GMT; 12min ago
       Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
    Process: 651 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/hddtemp start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
        CPU: 11ms
I uses (would use) /usr/sbin/hddtemp. So should this service (and the init.d script) now get removed?

BTW I could not find a package owner for e.g /etc/init.d/hddtemp ...I was hoping an apt "purge" would remove it

However I did:

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 apt-get purge hddtemp
.. and it seemed to remove the service, but I was "guessing" at the package name.

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