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[Closed] What ablout "Experimental"?

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[Closed] What ablout "Experimental"?

#1 Post by cds60601 »

It's nice that we have Testing and Unstable. Should we even consider Experimental?
I myself dabble in that repo (Thunderbird) and I don't know how useful if would/could be.
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Re: [Forum] What about "Experimental"?

#2 Post by arochester »

Unlike the Debian Releases unstable and testing, experimental (also known by its codename "RC-Buggy") isn't a complete distribution, it can work only as an extension of unstable. So packages in experimental can depend on packages in unstable but packages in unstable cannot depend on packages in experimental.
Source - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimen ... perimental.

Post under Unstable?

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Re: [Forum] What about "Experimental"?

#3 Post by cds60601 »

arochester wrote: 2023-07-15 20:25
Unlike the Debian Releases unstable and testing, experimental (also known by its codename "RC-Buggy") isn't a complete distribution, it can work only as an extension of unstable. So packages in experimental can depend on packages in unstable but packages in unstable cannot depend on packages in experimental.
Source - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimen ... perimental.

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I suppose it make sense in that vain. TBH, I don't recall a post for Experimental anyways.
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Re: [Forum] What ablout "Experimental"?

#4 Post by donald »

We could add it as a prefix in the testing forum as we remove the other prefixes. A separate forum would not garner enough traffic I think.
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Re: [Forum] What ablout "Experimental"?

#5 Post by CwF »

The rare prefix should be enough.

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#6 Post by sunrat »

No prefix please. People who use Experimental are advanced users who don't need to ask questions on a forum. Making a prefix might encourage n00bs to think they can get more SNS.
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sunrat wrote: 2023-07-16 03:00 No prefix please. People who use Experimental are advanced users who don't need to ask questions on a forum. Making a prefix might encourage n00bs to think they can get more SNS.
I can only recall one time I ever had to install something from there. And I was using siduction at the time.
Actually, that is a very good point.
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#8 Post by pwzhangzz »

donald wrote: 2023-07-15 23:13 We could add it as a prefix in the testing forum as we remove the other prefixes. A separate forum would not garner enough traffic I think.
"Experimental"--humbly named "rc-buggy"--is probably one of the most exciting features of Debian. Anything that can help the traffic--and thus enhancing Debian's publicity/acceptability--, I am all for it.

Just a few days ago, Experimental moved its Linux kernel version up to the big 6.4. So so exciting.

The water is warm. We need more adventurists. The only way to chug Debian (desktops) ahead! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: [Forum] What ablout "Experimental"?

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cds60601 wrote: 2023-07-16 03:33
sunrat wrote: 2023-07-16 03:00 No prefix please. People who use Experimental are advanced users who don't need to ask questions on a forum. Making a prefix might encourage n00bs to think they can get more SNS.
I can only recall one time I ever had to install something from there. And I was using siduction at the time.
Actually, that is a very good point.
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Re: [Forum] What ablout "Experimental"?

#10 Post by wizard10000 »

I thanked donald above but changed my mind about the prefix. Agree that maybe that would send a message we'd prefer not to send :)
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Re: [Forum] What ablout "Experimental"?

#11 Post by donald »

wizard10000 wrote: 2023-07-16 18:13 I thanked donald above but changed my mind about the prefix. Agree that maybe that would send a message we'd prefer not to send :)
Ah ha! I'm doubling down on this quote: :D:D
pwzhangzz wrote: 2023-07-16 07:16
donald wrote: 2023-07-15 23:13 We could add it as a prefix in the testing forum as we remove the other prefixes. A separate forum would not garner enough traffic I think.
"Experimental"--humbly named "rc-buggy"--is probably one of the most exciting features of Debian. Anything that can help the traffic--and thus enhancing Debian's publicity/acceptability--, I am all for it.

Just a few days ago, Experimental moved its Linux kernel version up to the big 6.4. So so exciting.

The water is warm. We need more adventurists. The only way to chug Debian (desktops) ahead! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

We could offer for download in the Testing Forum the actual 6.x Kernels, we have a Download mod here that we do not currently use and which would be ideal for that very purpose.:D
It would be interesting to see what the community could come up with.
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#12 Post by Spinnekop »

Would "experimental" effectively make it a rolling release?

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Spinnekop wrote: 2023-07-16 22:06 Would "experimental" effectively make it a rolling release?
No
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Spinnekop wrote: 2023-07-16 22:06 Would "experimental" effectively make it a rolling release?
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Spinnekop wrote: 2023-07-16 22:06 Would "experimental" effectively make it a rolling release?
more of a bounce

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CwF wrote: 2023-07-16 23:26
Spinnekop wrote: 2023-07-16 22:06 Would "experimental" effectively make it a rolling release?
more of a bounce
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#17 Post by Bulkley »

I have never found anything I wanted in Experimental. It's so far off the wall that it's useless for me; probably useless for almost everyone.

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#18 Post by pwzhangzz »

Spinnekop wrote: 2023-07-16 22:06 Would "experimental" effectively make it a rolling release?
You can change the priority of "experimental" repos (which now default to 1, as opposed to 500 for stable and 900 for unstable) to make it effectively a rolling release. No one will think this is a workable idea but nothing will stop you from doing that either. :mrgreen:

However, things can always change. That's why we invest so much of our time seeking a non-Windows, non-Mac alternative. JMNSHO

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#19 Post by donald »

[Experimental Rolling Release] prefix tag. Got it. :D
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#20 Post by sunrat »

donald wrote: 2023-07-17 03:19 [Experimental Rolling Release] prefix tag. Got it. :D
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