[Discussion] Which application, now defunct in Debian, do you remember fondly?

[fabien]

Yet another nostalgic topic...

Over time, we have lost applications, often due to lack of upstream maintenance, sometimes also probably due to lack of time on the part of Debian maintainers.

What apps do you remember and maybe still miss? An opportunity to pay tribute to the work of their developers and the efforts of their Debian maintainers.

I remember GImageView, an image viewer removed in 2009. I replaced it with GqView which became Geeqie but I still miss the tabs offered by GImageView.

I also remember Multi Gnome Terminal, a very good terminal at the time. Like many others, it didn't make the jump from GTK1 to GTK2.

[wizard10000]

gksu since I'm apparently allergic to polkit - lxqt-sudo has proven to be an acceptable replacement, though.

Stretch was the last distribution that had gksu

[sdibaja]

fslint

http://www.pixelbeat.org/fslint/

[Uptorn]

taganijisho which was apparently only maintained in Stretch before dropping into the abyss. Now I just build from source.

[milomak]

amarok - although this is more a kde thing

[CwF]

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/aweather

It used to be more important for me. I do have some almost working examples and strangely enough my i686 bookworm version works best. It crashes while loading the data. 3-5 tries it works. It needed some tweaks and I can't remember what I did...

[fabien]

fslint

http://www.pixelbeat.org/fslint/

Was dependent on a Python2 library and Python2 was removed in Bullseye.
Maybe dupeGuru that can be found in Bookworm?
A bug was opened wanting to include Czkawka.

taganijisho which was apparently only maintained in Stretch before dropping into the abyss. Now I just build from source.

Looks great for Japanese learners. Depended on Qt4 which was removed in Bullseye. The good news is that it has been ported to Qt5 so it could theoretically be included again.

amarok

Also depended on Qt4. The port to Qt5 seems to have started but unfortunately not very active.

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/aweather

Not developed by upstream anymore.
Maybe xygrib?

[CwF]

Maybe xygrib?

Yes, but not nearly as pretty. I remember I did track down a data source for aweather and it is working when it wants to. It is also 3d when it's in a good mood. My i686 bookworm version has a topo graphics layer missing, so only a osm like map, and is much more stable than other versions running a topo background. I'll get to the tcl/tk choices someday!

[Hallvor]

Another for Amarok.

[sunrat]

Another for Amarok.

Indeed. It was one of the best music players ever. I vaguely recall seeing it in a new distro recently, Garuda or KDE Neon maybe. Will boot them up sometime and look.

[Hallvor]

I vaguely recall seeing it in a new distro recently, Garuda or KDE Neon maybe. Will boot them up sometime and look.

That is surprising; I thought it was dead for years. I headed over to GitHub, and it seems it's under active development!

https://github.com/KDE/amarok

[sdibaja]

fslint

http://www.pixelbeat.org/fslint/

Was dependent on a Python2 library and Python2 was removed in Bullseye.
Maybe dupeGuru that can be found in Bookworm?
A bug was opened wanting to include Czkawka.

thanks for pointing out dupeGuru
it is interesting... big learning curve.

[fabien]

I headed over to GitHub, and it seems it's under active development!

https://github.com/KDE/amarok

Indeed, it seems that something is happening very recently
https://github.com/KDE/amarok/graphs/commit-activity

[anticapitalista]

gksu
roxterm
pornview!
xmms
leafpad

[wizard10000]

gksu
roxterm
pornview!
xmms
leafpad

I also miss xmms although audacious and qmmp will use my favorite winamp2 skin so all is not completely lost

Mentioned it in my own post above but if you miss gksu you might give lxqt-sudo a try. I do strongly suggest you install it with --no-install-recommends or you're gonna get a bunch of lxqt you'd probably rather not have but it works pretty well. Using lxsudo instead of gksudo isn't much of a transition to learn, the only real gotcha I've found is that lxqt-sudo doesn't temporarily add /usr/sbin to your path so you need to use a full path to those binaries. I don't recall this being an issue with gksudo but I could be wrong

Other than that it works pretty great

[friendlysalmon88]

I remember are as follows.

Thunderbird
Firefox
Gimp
the open SSH suite of programs and servers
FileZilla

[fabien]

Thunderbird
Firefox
Gimp
the open SSH suite of programs and servers
FileZilla

Irrelevant.

Code: Select all

$> apt list thunderbird firefox-esr gimp openssh-client openssh-server filezilla
Listing... Done
filezilla/stable 3.63.0-1+deb12u3 amd64
firefox-esr/stable-security,now 115.9.1esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
gimp/stable,now 2.10.34-1+deb12u2 amd64 [installed]
openssh-client/stable,stable-security,now 1:9.2p1-2+deb12u2 amd64 [installed]
openssh-server/stable,stable-security,now 1:9.2p1-2+deb12u2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
thunderbird/stable-security,now 1:115.9.0-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

Please take the time to understand the topics before responding.

[donald]

Amarok.

[steve_v]

More recently: ksysguard (and its remote monitoring over SSH with ksysguardd), which has apparently been superseded upstream by plasma-system-monitor. The latter drops a vast swathe of useful features in favour of "prettier" graphs, a hamburger menu, and the usual soydev "nobody was using that anyway" / "modern UI" / "less complicated and confronting for new users" excuses.

[donald]

This popped up in a Debian channel today: Software from Yesterday, Debian