[Solved] Pulseaudio components

[admiincomp]

Should I have any components running for pulseaudio if I am using Pipewire only?

When I perform dpkg -l|grep pulseaudio I see the following

ii gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:amd64 1.22.0-5+deb12u1 amd64 GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio (transitional package)
rc pulseaudio 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 PulseAudio sound server
ii pulseaudio-utils 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin:amd64 0.4.5-1 amd64 Xfce4 panel plugin to control pulseaudio

[CwF]

I have gone back and forth a few time between Pulse and Pipewire and at this point have judged pipewire to offer inferior sound under the Xfce DE. ymmv

In those test, synaptic was clear in identifying packages relating to the two choices, now qualifying as auto removable.

Pattern;
+/-pulseaudio
+/-pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
-/+libfreeaptx0
-/+liblc3-0
-/+libldacbt-abr2
-/+libldacbt-enc2
-/+libpipewire-0.3-modules
-/+libspa-0.2-bluetooth
-/+libwireplumber-0.4-0
-/+pipewire
-/+pipewire-alsa
-/+pipewire-audio
-/+pipewire-bin
-/+pipewire-pulse
-/+wireplumber

[admiincomp]

Your stating that pipewire is inferior to pulse audio? Debian 12 uses pipewire by default isn't that correct ?

I wan to know if all pulse audio components can be removed and Pipewire would function in all aspects

[CwF]

Your stating that pipewire is inferior to pulse audio?

stating, no; reporting my experience.

Debian 12 uses pipewire by default isn't that correct ?

No, this is DE dependent. If default gnome, then yes.

I wan to know if all pulse audio components can be removed and Pipewire would function in all aspects

and I said...

I have gone back and forth a few time between Pulse and Pipewire

That means, install one, install the other, install the original - back and forth.
So yes. The +/- OR -/+ indicated for each file needed to go back and forth...

[FreewheelinFrank]

This is what I get in XFCE with Pipewire:

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$ dpkg -l|grep pulseaudio
ii  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:amd64                  1.22.10-1                            amd64        GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio (transitional package)
ii  pulseaudio-utils                               16.1+dfsg1-3                         amd64        Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin:amd64                  0.4.8-1+b1                           amd64        Xfce4 panel plugin to control pulseaudio

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rc pulseaudio 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 PulseAudio sound server

Means you have uninstalled it but still have the configurations files.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/18804/w ... ii-rc-mean

XFCE still uses the pulseaudio panel plugin even for Pipewire, so you need to keep that.

Some pulseaudio-utils still work with Pipewire, others don't. pacmd will get you

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No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.

whereas pactl (+ valid option such as pactl list) still works.

gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio is a dependency of Kazam for me. There is also a gstreamer1.0-pipewire package (not installed). I presume there is some jiggery-pokery going on here to make sure that packages that depend on PulseAudio packages can still work with Pipewire until they transition to the Pipewire packages. You may also have a package installed that depends on gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio.

In short, no you shouldn't remove anything, except maybe the PulseAudio config files if you are staying with Pipewire.

[admiincomp]

I have removed all except xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin:amd64 0.4.5-1 amd64 Xfce4 panel plugin to control pulseaudio which I belief is the volume control on XFCE.

Is there a Pipewire control to replace the XFCE

Pipewire is not the default for XFCe debian 12 ?

[Augie77]

For better or worse this is what I have in my Xfce. I have read enough about the both that I am confused. I have sound and video that works well, but I have no idea if the audio is what it should be.

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dpkg -l|grep pulseaudio
ii  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:amd64               1.22.0-5+deb12u1                        amd64        GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio (transitional package)
ii  pulseaudio                                  16.1+dfsg1-2+b1                         amd64        PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils                            16.1+dfsg1-2+b1                         amd64        Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin:amd64               0.4.5-1                                 amd64        Xfce4 panel plugin to control pulseaudio

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dpkg -l|grep pipewire
ii  libpipewire-0.3-0:amd64                     0.3.65-3+deb12u1                        amd64        libraries for the PipeWire multimedia server
ii  libpipewire-0.3-common                      0.3.65-3+deb12u1                        all          libraries for the PipeWire multimedia server - common files
rc  pipewire-bin                                0.3.65-3+deb12u1                        amd64        PipeWire multimedia server - programs
rc  pipewire-pulse                              0.3.65-3+deb12u1                        amd64        PipeWire PulseAudio daemon

[FreewheelinFrank]

I have removed all except xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin:amd64 0.4.5-1 amd64 Xfce4 panel plugin to control pulseaudio which I belief is the volume control on XFCE.

Is there a Pipewire control to replace the XFCE

Pipewire is not the default for XFCe debian 12 ?

PulseAudio is still the default for XFCE in Bookworm. I'm using Testing and like to try out new things.

pipewire-pulse is a drop-in for PulseAudio, so anything that needs PulseAudio can use it as if it was PulseAudio. There is no reason for XFCE to develop a new plugin, as the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin works exactly as before, despite the name. I suppose something might happen about the name when/if Pipewire becomes the default for XFCE.

[admiincomp]

I have had no problems using Pipewire.I will look forward to XFCE update to support Pipewire