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Why is 'matrix-synapse' now in backports?

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Why is 'matrix-synapse' now in backports?

#1 Post by maltfield »

Why is the 'matrix-synapse' package now in backports?

* https://packages.debian.org/bookworm-ba ... ix-synapse

According to the documentation on synapse, 'matrix-synapse' can be installed directly from the main stable repos on bookworm
Andrej Shadura maintains a matrix-synapse package in the Debian repositories. For bookworm and sid, it can be installed simply with:

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sudo apt install matrix-synapse
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Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be true (note this 404s):

* https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/matrix-synapse

Perhaps I misunderstand the purpose of 'backports', but it seems to me that the natural progression of a package would be to move from backports into the normal 'stable' repo. But, in this case, we have a package that the docs say it's available in 'stable' but it appears to only be available in backports for the last 2 debian releases

* https://packages.debian.org/bullseye-ba ... ix-synapse
* https://packages.debian.org/bookworm-ba ... ix-synapse

What happened to this package, and -- in general -- where can I go to read the comments from maintainers myself to understand its history, so I don't have to ask about it in the forums?

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Re: Why is 'matrix-synapse' now in backports?

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maltfield wrote: 2024-04-25 23:46 Perhaps I misunderstand the purpose of 'backports', but it seems to me that the natural progression of a package would be to move from backports into the normal 'stable' repo. But, in this case, we have a package that the docs say it's available in 'stable' but it appears to only be available in backports for the last 2 debian releases
Yes.

Backports repo is Stable repo, technically. It is not the first program to receive a backport before finding its way into stable proper. yt-dlp was once backported before being introduced into the following Stable release.

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Re: Why is 'matrix-synapse' now in backports?

#3 Post by sunrat »

Maybe the wiki can help you understand Backports better - https://wiki.debian.org/Backports
Backports packages usually do not migrate to Stable. "Stable" generally means packages don't change except for security updates.
Likely there was something holding back packaging for this one when Stable was released such as unavailable dependencies or bugs.
It's available in Backports now so it's a non-issue really.
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Re: Why is 'matrix-synapse' now in backports?

#4 Post by wizard10000 »

It's a security update - the CVE says versions < 1.105.1 are vulnerable. The package tracker says the package is in bullseye-backports, bookworm-backports, Trixie and Sid and does *not* appear to be in regular Bookworm. Strange.

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Re: Why is 'matrix-synapse' now in backports?

#5 Post by fabien »

maltfield wrote: 2024-04-25 23:46 where can I go to read the comments from maintainers myself to understand its history, so I don't have to ask about it in the forums?
Search the package in Debian -- Packages
Click on the package page
On the right, under Debian Resources:, click on Developer Information
The package history in Debian is in the news section
There you pay special attention to REMOVED from testing messages before the release of a new Debian version, like this one (2023-06-01)
Here you can read
FYI: The status of the matrix-synapse source package
in Debian's testing distribution has changed.

Previous version: 1.78.0-1
Current version: (not in testing)
Hint: <https://release.debian.org/britney/hints/elbrus>
# 20230531
# 1036954, 1036806
# 1036954, 1036806 refer to bugs, you go to the Debian bug tracking system and search for the bug in the Find a bug by number section

#1036954 says
As discussed with Andrej in #1036806 matrix-synapse will be hard to
support during the bookworm release cycle. To avoid we ship it
initially with bookworm, but relatively quickly might need to ask for
removal, let's not ship it from the start.

See https://bugs.debian.org/1036806#30
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